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Alessandro Calvi

Aldo Giannuli. The consultant to Commission massacres note explains the Service discovered that these events are withdrawn out in times of political crisis and transition. It could be a way in which the Venerable, usually silent, is unloading (on behalf of others?) Berlusconi.

The mystery of the well-known system - otherwise known as the Ring of the Republic - is becoming more the mystery of Licio Gelli. Why, one wonders, the head of the P2 lodge has decided to talk about it right now and with two interviews in a few days? And why shoot to zero on Silvio Berlusconi? And why, finally, pulling the ball Giulio Andreotti as a terminal of this parallel organization remained a secret almost until yesterday? "I have a feeling - test Aldo Giannuli to answer, that this parallel structure was the discoverer in 1998, when he found a closet in the interior ministry any confidential documents - note that the Service is the only splash of cheese that makes the food more palatable. And the food is completely different. " It might have something to do with the delicate moment that the country is going through a period of transition as was the 1992-1994 season when Berlusconi burst on the political scene.

was, in fact, in 1998 when Aldo Giannuli, on behalf of the Prosecutor of Brescia, who was investigating the massacre of Piazza della Loggia, Judge Guido Salvini and to work on the massacre of Piazza Fontana, comes across some documents stored in an archive of Interior Ministry. Those documents, remember Giannuli hours, had been reported by police, and the notation is as a recognition of the loyalty that those officials took to the State, which on other occasions and with other actors, as is known, did not.

"I understood immediately the significance of this finding - Giannuli says, but for all the consequences, it took years of work." Those documents had been made to disappear for a mistake but ended in a copy of the source file Dario. "Of course - says Giannuli - we thought it was a document relating to the same source that we will find and we confirmed that they were. In fact, as we discovered later, that source was not reliable. To warn us that some errors were committed, such as placing the general Roatta under the Borghese coup. Roat, however, at the time was already dead. " It was not the only trap "but - says Giannuli - once you have found the key to the reading of that document, it was possible a reinterpretation of many episodes in Italian history which often appeared disconnected while, just through the existence of this secret facility, it was possible to reconstruct an overall picture. " The Service

Noto was born on the ashes of Military Intelligence at the end of the Second World War, Sim, at the hands of General Mario Roatta who was the former head of the Sim. "The group - says Giannuli - remained cohesive Roatta then sold it to the Americans." "It's always been a structure of fact, never having received formal recognition." Therefore, it remained a secret and parallel to activate the occasion and, therefore, not ricollebaile intelligence services institutions. He was thus able to play dirty operations without directly involving the state. Just this informality, among other things, explains why its existence has been restricted for so long.

even a name has ever had. In the rare documents in which it is spoken, is shown as well-known system. The words ring is claimed by members of the same the structure. "In a certain sense - says Giannuli - there was an attempt to build an organization equivalent to that of Ghelen in Germany. The fact is that the structure was eventually recognized as the now well-known that recognition had not ever. " The consequence is that it was continually reworked through various stages. "The first crisis we had at the turn of the 50's when they come out roattiani, perhaps even a rough story about the trafficking of weapons. Then came equipment related to the industrial North. In the mid-sixties is the entrance of the old pieces Rsi whose intelligence was so recovered. In the mid-seventies, there is another crisis because the secret of the existence of the Ring was in danger of being revealed. Then come back to the office with the case and the case Kappler Cirillo. Until the year 1990 there is no trace of their existence, as evidenced by a response that Craxi was from the secret services. " And now that private property you can speak again.

was Licio Gelli to do so and did so in an interview today that he had the phrase "I had the P2, Cossiga Andreotti the Gladio and the Ring," the element that most impressed, but it contained many more elements, especially in an anti-berlusciniana. Esattamete were the same items already mentioned in an interview a couple of forums with the time of weeks before. Curious circumstance, that, for a person like Gelli notoriously reserved. So one wonders why certain statements on the Ring, on Andreotti and Berlusconi. Giannuli explains that, though, "Andreotti if it was the refenerente, we can not say I've been running this organization." Of course, having been the architect of services in post conflict reconstruction, "has always been hands-on in these environments, so that now I understand better when Montanelli said:" When you go to church, De Gasperi talks to God, Andreotti with the clerk. " Of these reports, Andreotti then made one of the levers of his climb to power. But from here to say that they ran races there. "

But not all. "I jumped on the chair when I read the reference to Gladio Cossiga and that instead it was the referent of Gladio although they proceeded to regularization. And then, at what point there would be this contemporaneity of all three? No, not balance the books. " Therefore difficult to understand why Gelli has decided not to remain silent and be releasing some of his statements. "Of course - Giannuli notes - you can not say that I am giving a contribution in clarity. Alludes, but does not say, as with those phrases on Berlusconi, who for years told us that Mr Berlusconi had just saved from communism. Perhaps it is merely trying Gelli to say the final word on some events, in a time when it can no longer respond Cossiga Andreotti and silent. "

Or perhaps you must consider the actual time that the country lives, a moment of grave crisis and power vacuum. Right in the middle of that time, Gelli said that people like Andreotti Cossiga and there's no longer around and it seems that Berlusconi to give up, too, was writing to his P2 Lodge. And putting it all together, it looks like he's saying that the field is free. "Yeah - reflects Giannuli - perhaps preparing the ground for some brother coming. On the other hand, Berlusconi for some time is not very sympathetic to the Americans and the heart of Gelli known to beat on that side of the Atlantic. Perhaps some rude energy, maybe more. But the game is still incomprehensible. What seems clear is that the service is a love note. Now you must figure out what that friend be fishing. "

The Reform ,

February 17, 2011

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"Let me explain what the Ring of Gelli" Licio Gelli

Alessandro Calvi

Guido Salvini. Explain the magistrate that the parallel structure, and secret, you mentioned the head of P2, attributing the guide to Andreotti, was "political" and needed for operations through illicit means in key anti-communist.

Is it the private property of which you know not. This is the well-known system, also known as the Ring of the Republic, a kind of parallel intelligence agency whose existence was revealed when Aldo Giannuli, instructed by Judge Guido Salvini investigating the massacre of Piazza Fontana, and the Public Prosecutor of Brescia work on the bomb in Piazza della Loggia, discovered some documents in the archive of the Interior Ministry of the Appian Way in which reference was made to this entity. Since then, a book by Stephen Limits and little else. Now, suddenly and in a time of severe political crisis, he spoke again. He did Licio Gelli, speaking of Giulio Andreotti and Silvio Berlusconi.

Yeah, Licio Gelli, who through an interview published today, which is pretty hard on Berlusconi, confirmed the existence of the Ring and ties him to Giulio Andreotti. "I had the P2, Cossiga Andreotti the Gladio and the Ring." Can not escape, however, a very unusual circumstance for those who have made privacy a reason to live, or to one that today is the second interview that the Reverend will be released within a couple of weeks. On 28 January, in fact, the Daily Time appeared in another interview Gelli. In the middle, always the figure of Berlusconi and still unflattering opinions on the current premier. And there's a phrase - "If it is true what is attributed (at least in part, and I think that is true), then yes he should not have to do it, or at least should have used more sensitive systems" - which, linking up with the revelation on the Ring and the role of Andreotti, seems to assume a tone of reproach. "If you really want to talk about Licio Gelli Ring - Salvini note - you may do so from a truly privileged position."

Judge Salvini, what do you mean mean?

This organization was founded at the end of the war on the initiative of General Mario Roat, former head of military service was then called Sim, and chief of army staff. Well, Gelli between 1940 and 1942 he worked as an informer of the Sim. His is the voice of the speaker having lived close certain events, and that even if that was not "his" organization. But on the other hand, P2, Gladio and other organizations in activities can be considered as concentric circles or artichoke leaves, which, although they each have their role, they have points of connection.

What was the role of the Ring?

Unlike other parallel organizations that then emerged since the early nineties as Gladio and the nuclei of State Defense, the service was not known, but civil and military organization was not project-related tasks that were coup or controinsorgenza. It was formed by entrepreneurs, former Republicans and journalists. We know from the papers found in the archives of the Ministry of the Interior and the testimony of two people who have told their militancy in the organization, allowing us to read some hints made by Mino Pecorelli the now well-known before the discovery of documents Giannuli part of that time this was not possible to decipher.

What kind of operations carried out?

In general we can say that it was involved in operations that the State could not do directly, and they could not turn to other entities formed for other purposes. As we know, it's political operations for the maintenance of domestic and international interests in key anti-communist. In short, the operations were completed through illicit means to prop up a certain framework.

Why has remained so secret so long?

Because it was not involved in the projects of the coup of the seventies. And because it was a dormant organization that was turned to the occasion.

On what occasions has been activated?

On some operations we have certainty, other much less. I would stop at first: the flight of Kappler, the kidnapping of Ciro Cirillo purchase of oil from Libya.

Let's start with Kappler.

parts instead of the drain that is Roatta thirty years ago and it seems quite comparable to that of Kappler. Roat was taken away from the hospital during the military trial for the murder of the Rosselli brothers in 1945, shortly before being charged for the crimes of the army in the Balkans. The plane that brought Roatta in Spain was led by Adalberto Titta, the central element of the Ring. And the same Titta would guide the car that brought Kappler, who fled the Celio military hospital, north Italy, where he was handed over to the German services in the context of a transaction which would unlock some loans between West Germany and Italy. Among other things, numerous witnesses say that some of the cards would Moro been directed towards its drain Kappler, referred to as the State Opera. I have never emerged, as if they were pruned because they are too embarrassing.

And Libya?

In the seventies, some Italian oil companies with the complicity of officers of Finance, would have to buy oil from Libya at a lower price than that set by OPEC in exchange for weapons dating to World War II. Moro was against it. Pecorelli the second ring on the advice of Andreotti intervened to complete the operation.

intervened Ring even if Cyril?

Titta would have dealt personally with Cutolo prison in Ascoli Piceno payment of the ransom that would be shared with the Red Brigades for release. Even in this case would have disappeared Tapes of interrogations of Cyril that there would be malfeasance on some of the confessions of the Christian Democrats in Campania.

Gelli now says it was the Ring of Andreotti.

It thus adds to the witnesses who have admitted participating in the Ring and was told the same thing.

Gelli Why do you think about right now because of the Ring and talk about Berlusconi?

I would say that the tone seems to be a reproach, as he did not have the foresight to adopt a "ring" of security. To understand more, look what we say in the second episode he has promised.

The Reform

February 16, 2011

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confesses: "I had the P2 and Andreotti was the head of the Ring"

GELLI: "I I HAD THE P2, ANDREOTTI THE RING "- Have a taste of the sensational revelations of the statements made by Licio Gelli in an interview with the weekly today. L 'venerable ex will confirm for the first time, albeit with a few words, the existence of an organization unknown to most people, a sort of secret service parallel (and illegal) who had at the Summit Senator Giulio Andreotti . "Giulio Andreotti would be the true 'owner' of the P2 Lodge? For heaven's sake ... - Gelli says - I had the P2, Cossiga Andreotti the Gladio and the Ring. " It does not add much but it is still meaningful words that Andreotti, interviewed by Today, he prefers not to comment on. On the week, the historian Aldo Giannullo explains that "the Ring (or, more properly, the 'Known Service') was a parallel and clandestine secret service, discovered only recently during the reinvestigation of the massacre of Brescia. Founded in 1944 by General Roatta for ' dirty work' that they should not directly involve service men, underwent various transformations, divisions and enter new, to finally dissolve around 1990-91. History This service intersects with many of the darkest events in the history of our country: from Piazza Fontana to the Moro case to case Cyril. "

On the P2, Gelli not said sorry, indeed, shows some regret for not being able to implement fully its programs. "The would do - he says - much of my birth plan was created and I would have been enough other four months. Only four. And I would have changed the political system without a shot being fired. "

Regarding the current political situation, however, suppresses Gelli Prime Minister Berlusconi. "His politics do not like. It has proved a weak, scared the minority and does not rely on the power the people gave him. Today the country is in a stalemate. Very dangerous. Berlusconi was too collegiate would have to spend more time on other meetings in other dinners. " Even more harsh judgments on Gianfranco Fini : "He is a man without character"

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The head of the Masonic lodge P2, Licio Gelli, gave an interview to the weekly magazine "Oggi", stating that "Giulio Andreotti was the leader of a secret service and deflected parallel. The organization was known as the "Ring." It is an organization almost unknown, of which Senator Andreotti was the referent. One species, clandestine parallel intelligence service that was halfway between regular services and civil society: hence the name "ring" to justify the link between the two, according to all anti-Communist. Gelli had "P2," Cossiga the "Gladio" Andreotti and the Ring. "The editors of the magazine has asked for a comment to the Andreotti himself, who, however, declined to comment on the rumor by the former Yugoslav venerable Freemasonry called Propaganda 2. The historian Aldo Giannuli, former advisor to the Commission Slaughter, said: "The Ring, Noto also said the Service, was discovered during the investigation on the massacre of Brescia. "

He adds: "The Secret Service was founded in 1944 by General Roatta and was used for the dirty work. It disbanded in 1991. Its history is intertwined with the facts of our darkest Republic from Piazza Fontana the case Moro . Spurred on current politics, Licio Gelli is also talk of Berlusconi, calling it "weak and too collegiate."

The venerable ex off balance, even on Fini, who calls "a man without character" . On his alleged secret correspondence abroad, Gelli says that once the Italian secret services had paid 400 million pounds for his store that was false, made up of unnecessary paper and newspapers. He continued saying "not in any way, save any files on political figures."